Time to Rank Motels on Pee Friendly-ness !!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Okay, we've toyed with this before, lets stop playing around and make it official:

Lets organize a list of motels that do and do not ***** and moan about pee soaked mattresses and further organize a list of motels that use mattress protectors (i HATE those fucking things) and whether these places ***** and moan if you remove the protector and then pee the bed.

I mean, it's a beautiful thing to rent a room and then get drenched by your girlfriend. And a beautiful thing to just drench yourself if your staying alone. Lets start knowing where we're welcome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WD12]

Oh wow. This is a subject of high controversy. I, for one, like to protect beds I "rent" or am not otherwise responsible for. I don't want anyone to have to pay for my misdeeds.

But I really love letting go where I shouldn't. Hotel/Motel beds included.

Let's all "let go" on this issue!

[quietpr]

I don't think it is fair or decnet of someone to go to a motel/hotel, find that they protect their beds with mattress protectors and remove them, knowing you're going to wet the bed and doing so intentionally. You don't own that bed...and you make no bones about not wanting to pay for your actions...

How is that fair to the owner of the establishment?

[Anonymous]

Get over it. Have a little fun, Dont be so uptight and self righteous. We've all seen and enjoyed movies and stories of people peeing where theyre not supposed to and loving it.

If you can't enjoy the conversation for what it is, then just ignore it, and let the rest of us have our fun.

Anyway, IT'S JUST PEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They wash the sheets, spray some febreeze on the matress, turn it over and be done with it. I for one am not willing to suffer guilt over something so innocent playful and fun. You make it sound like we're setting motel rooms on fire. IT'S JUST PEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quietpr]

Several things of note...

1. If the hotel protects its mattresses, the owner obviously doesn't want pee on them. It contains ammonia and several other elements (albeit in small quantities) that can in fact damage a mattress.

2. You have to bear in mind that most people aren't into watersports, and thus the presence of a pee soaked mattress might offend them (them being the housekeeping staff).

3. Generaly speaking, if you wet a mattress, the hotel tends to make you pay for it, so they must not "just spray some fabreeze on it and flip it over"...they must be getting rid of it.

4. Pee (especially overnight pee) tends to carr with it a smell that ws enthusiasts like, but other people do not.

I'm all for having fun in improper places, and making the most out of your trips...but people going around intentionally removing mattress protectors for the express purpose of damaging a mattress (it may not be damaged in the eyes of a ws enthusiast, but to some people, the thought that someone has put their pee all over a mattress ruins it), gives watersports a bad name.

[Anonymous]

I think from all the things writen here hotels/motels are prepared for the odd 'accident' and don't make any trouble. F****** **** has ANYBODY here EVER got into trouble for wetting a hotel/motel bed? We have even heard from someone who worked at one and explained how they cleened the mattress if that happened. Now, if we all start doing it they might begin to get stroppy.......

[wetjohn]

OK, I'm always 'enjoy' staying alone in a motel, usually the first thing i do when i shut the door is wet my pants. I pee in the basin (but i do that at home anyhow)and yes, I like to wet the bed. I always check the condition of the mattress first. If its a decent hotel i will always place towels (my own) under the sheets to soak away most of the pee - i know some slips through but not much.

I have however stayed in cheaper motels and the matresses have usually been well and truly stained. These are more enjoyable nights when i have just let go in the night without worrying. I will also admit to peeing on the carpets and of course on the balconies. In these cheaper motels i usually pay cash - so i dont have to worry about receiving a hefty charge on my credit card later for a new mattress. I hope my comments dont offend, but after all, your only reading this cos you're interested in ws

[wscot_uk]

Not sure how I feel about wetting a hotel bed, I have consideration for the person who has to sleep there tomorrow night. If the bed has mattress protectors then I might think about it.

There is talk of removing the mattress protectors, and then peeing in the bed. To my mind, removing the protector first is a deliberate act, and so any damage to the mattress must also be deliberate. In the UK this is called "criminal damage" and is a jailable offence.

I certainly don't want to stop people having fun, but for all our sakes please be considerate of others. If any of us damages other peoples property, then we cannot complain when people come on the board an call us perverts.

Stay wet, Doug

[quietpr]

Agreed Doug and wetjohn...

If the hotel is really chessy and the mattress is already stained...have at it...no harm no foul. images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

But if it seems pristene...chances are, you're dealing with a place that ditches mattresses when they get stained, so peeing in one is like taking a couple hundred bucks out of the hotel's register and burning it.

[Anonymous]

Hey Retroperv, I get the feeling that you get more out of doing something a little more than mischievious than you do from wetting. When you refer to movies of people wetting, you must be talking about videos such as those made by Skymouse, Patches Place, etc.. I would venture to bet that what indoor shoots are not in studio, are done with careful arrangements with shoot locations such as hotels etc. and furnishings and carpets etc. are protected or substituted for the shoot. In NY, it is illegal to sell used mattresses. I wonder why? While I am not really into participating in these watersports, I enjoy reading about them and watching them. However I feel that I do need to say that what you are doing - removing mattress protectors and deliberately wetting mattresses is very UN-COOL!! That is intentional destruction of someone else's property. Most decent motels pay alot more for their mattresses than a bargain basement $99 price. They often pay as much or more than we would pay, as an average retail customer for top of the line mattresses, as they need to invest in mattresses that will last. Their savings only come when they can buy in quantity. Doing what you suggest is tantamount to someone keying your car and saying "it's no big deal, he csn get it fixed". Think about that the next time you want to ruin a mattress at another motel.

[Anonymous]

I think it's extremely rude and selfish to urinate in a bed that doesn't belong to you. I used to work in an upscale hotel, which prided itself on cleanliness. I was only aware of one situation in which a customer's pregnant wife had an accident in the bed, and he apologized for it. Since he was a repeat and respectable customer (who always stayed in the highest priced rooms), he was not charged, but the mattress was immediately replaced to the tune of several hundred dollars, for health and cleanliness reasons, and to maintain the hotel's high rating. Think before you act. Unless you stay in only seedy motels/hotels, you are costing innocent people a lot of money.

[Anonymous]

quietpr, i gotta tell you, your whole attitude on this is a little too self righteous for my taste, are you a John ashrcoft fan by any chance? (just a little American humor)...

In any case, that aside, I'm enjoying the rest of the thread. I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one that takes advantage of the opportunity and just "lets go" and wets the bed when I'm spending the night away from home in a cheap motel. I just might have to do it this weekend!

Also, I've never gotten a bill or even a dirty look the next time I returned to a cheap motel after soaking a mattress myself, or even better, with the loving shower of a girl friend.

So my guess is that unless you do something really stoooopid (like piss on the wall) they just chalk it up as an "accident". People seem to think the WE have a liability, but you need to start thinking like Americans (at least those of you that live here in the states). They, the motel, also have a liability. If they accuse you of pissing the bed, that would be a MAJOR defamation of character issue (what if they accuse the wrong party ?). They could be opening themselves up to a lawsuit, I think they'd prefer to just clean up the mattress and be done with it.

Anyway, maybe we should look at this from a point of view of "has anyone ever actually had a problem aftr been wetting the bed ?". Has anyone ever been refused a second stay or been billed on their credit card for a mattress or mattress clean up?

By the way, even in a classier hotel, I have a feeling you could escape any problems by leaving the maid a nice crisp $20 and a note saying "sorry about the accident".

I'm curious to hear more ! images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

By the way, why was my use of the word B*tch censored? I didnt call anyone a that, it wasnt used as an insult. images/smiles/icon_confused.gif

[Anonymous]

jeez Lynn, you too, lighten up!

[Anonymous]

"Whether I can escape a fine for wetting a hotel bed is not the point."

Well, actually, it is my point.

Every time this question of "If i wet the bed at a motel, will a charge for $250 show up on my credit card ?", it has been the point.

Anyway, thank you for the opportunity to clarify.

[Anonymous]

You have to remember that pee is a bodily fluid and is a slight risk of spreading AIDS not as much as anal sex or needles I think. Anybody with more expert information feel free to comment.
Another thing to remember is that by the time
the next guest arrives they will have a clean sheet but that leaves the maids to clean it up. I know they clean cum stains all the time but a totally soaked bed it is a lot harder for her to avoid.

[quietpr]

To retroperv...I know it's true that you won't get charged most of the time...but that's not why I was arguing against removing the mattress protector and wetting the bed intentionally...

I was raguing against that because it's inconsiderate of others...

[quietpr]

That kind of thought "You need to start thinking like "Americans"...legal mumbo jumbo" is exactly what gives decent Americans a bad name...

To the rest of the world...Americans are not all litigious little punks who will do anything they can get away with whether it's polite and thoughtful or not.

Whether I can escape a fine for wetting a hotel bed is not the point. I'd like to think most people care even a slight little bit about the maid who cleans up after them or the person who owns the hotel, or the next customer...

[Anonymous]

AIDS being transmitted via a dry mattress covered with clean sheets... Lemme tell ya somethin, when I start getting THAT paranoid of AIDS, I'll just slit my wrists and get it over with.

PUH LEASE......

[Anonymous]

"To retroperv...I know it's true that you won't get charged most of the time..." ... "I was arguing against that because it's inconsiderate of others... "

Yes I know this, and wetting the bed motel or doing golden showers in a motel bed is a bit inconsiderate of others, but somehow I can deal with the very minimal "guilt", as can most of the people that read this board.

To be quite blunt, it's a minimal issue, and I just dont give a fuck. Maids deal with wet beds all the time, it's just part of the business, and maid service is part of the price I pay when I rent the room. If you feel bad, leave a tip, end of story.

But yes, this was my point: I love getting peed on in and wetting myself in motel beds, and I've never been charged. I was curious as to other people's experiences with being charged. I couldnt care less about the "moral dilemia".

[quietpr]

Well retroperv...the great thing about America is that you don't have to care about being polite and kind to other and considerate of the people around you.

God bless the land of the free.

I just hope there are enough people in the country with the social responsibility to make their freedom something worth protecting.

[Anonymous]

The AIDS's risk I was talking about was not about the next guest with a dry sheet but the maid who has to clean up the soiled one.
Because AIDS is not as much in the news as it used to be does not mean it has gone away you know. It is amazing how fast complancency sets in.
We all should still be paranoid about it.
All the that has happened is that the majority of cases has gone from a group with a active lobbying group (white male upper middle class gays) to one with none (minorities who are drug users) and we are no closer to a real cure.

[quietpr]

Actually Fillerup...the majority of the cases are now centered in third world Africa...

But point taken nonetheless.

And I don't think we as a country have grown complacent about AIDS...we still spend roughly 5 billion dollars a year on research.

[Anonymous]

I thought AIDS was a very sensitive virus that had to be passed directly from one body to another otherwise it died. Even mouth to mouth kissing is supposed to carry no risk. Is anyone seriously suggesting that chambermaids are at risk from the beds!

AIDS is too serious to just useas a bogey mand like this.

David

[Anonymous]

You are correct, David. Although I dont have access to his/her IP, I would guess fillherup is American, given his/her level of AIDS hysteria.

AIDS hysteria, I'm embarrassed to say, is a very American concept. American political correctness dictates that you must be convinced AIDS will kill us all.

[Anonymous]

I was interested in the comments of those who have wet the bed in a motel. Some years ago my girlfriend and I managed a hotel for about six months while the owners were oveseas. It was a twenty room motel and it was not that unsual to have a wet bed in the morning. There were children of course but it was quite noticable that often it was the parents who were doing the wetting.

There were some water bed units and we often put couples in there if they were attending social functions. If these beds were wetted it was easy to dry them off and launder the sheets and matress protectors. The honeymoon suit was also a water bed unit for obvious reasons. This bed was regularly wetted and the staff understood and did not react. Bed wetting in motels is more common than many would imagine

[Anonymous]

to retroperv i think you ought to slit your wrists anyway, you can do it on a hotel mattress if you wish.

[Anonymous]

I am a him and and American and a New York area
resident. We have had a few people die from the disease here but I am not convinced that everybody is going to die from it. All I said that there is a slight risk of urine passing AIDS.
As far as bieng politically correct 2 things I said would in the post would be considered extreamly politically uncorrect in the states "an active lobbying group (white upper middle class gays)", "minorities who are drug users". If this board were mostly American I would be ripped for bieng a homophobe and a racist.

[Anonymous]

okay lets see know ... Risk of AIDS being passed from blood through penis (or vagina) to urine to mattress then jumping of mattress onto skin of innocent 3rd party maid to ... or forget it it's to ridiculous to even bother.

There's a risk of getting struck by lightning too as I sit here typing, and i'm just as worried about that as I am about third party piss wet mattress chamerbermaid AIDS.

BTW ... PUH-LEASE ... sucking up to homosexuals, (and to a lesser extent drug users) is at the very HEART of American Political Correctness.

Man quietpr must be really confuzled, he was starting to think I was a democrate.

Also SKYMOUSE if I may make a special request, please DONT censor zephyr's suggestion that I slit my wrists. I dont believe in censorship.

[quietpr]

No retroperv...I wasn't think about your political affiliation...but now that you mention it...I'm guessing...Civil Libertarian?

The difference between me and you politically...you're a Civil side libertarian...and a political side libertarian/social conservative.

Strange how people from essentially the same party affiliation can be so completely different in philosophy.

[Anonymous]

Jimmy: Thank you for your well thought out comments.

I'm sure this is a LOT more common than people realize. I cant believe I'm the only person that's ever rented a motel room for the purpose of engaging in bed wetting or golden showers, given the popularity of both activities, it has got to be quite common.

People with kids lol - there's probably a lot of people that let the kids take the blame for mommy's and daddy's wet fun.

[Anonymous]

Quietpr and others, please let us keep US (or any!) politics out of the discussions here. OK, sometimes politics does intrude, but it can easily take over. There is a good reason why people in pubs are advised never to talk about religion or politics!

We want new people who come here to be bowled over by all the discussions about wetting - not bored by politics!

If you saw a pretty woman wetting herself in the street you would not go and ask her whether she voted Republican or Democrat, would you!

David

[Anonymous]

You missed the point Nate - Those mattress covers are uncomfortable, I'm not paying for discomfort when I check into a room. If i check into a motel with one, the cover comes off before i get into bed, this is nothing to do with whether i'm planning on getting wet.

You missed another point too: This discussion (for some of us at least, myself included) is not about the ethics of motel pissing. The point is, it happens, and many of us, myself included, just enjoy it so much and see the damage as so insignificant that it quite simply is not gonna stop happening.

If motels start charging for mattresses, I'll get a mastercard debit card with $50 on it and cover my ass that way. Since the room itself costs about $35, I'll fill my tank with gas on the way out and the card will be empty. Problem solved !!

ANYWAY I love wetting myself in a motel bed, and I love getting golden showers in a motel bed, and from what Dave said previously, and from what we all KNOW to be true, this is a VERY popular thing. People rent a room to have wet fun and not have to worry about the clean up.

I hope that this thread can continue with some discussion of what kinds of things people have done in the motel wet fun area, now that we've pretty well established that being billed for a mattress is a non issue (despite the temptation, just dont piss on that crappy artwork on the wall, is my advice). images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Anonymous]

U say U do never got a bill on your credit card to replace the mattress U wet. U did, as did everyone else who didn't. They include this risk in their price (U quoted US$35) if U were more considerate and didn't do this they could charge 30.

As regards the destruction of personal property, U may not mind if I wet your bed, but how would U like it if I went and pissed all over your parents bed? But if its a motel bed then its OK?

[Anonymous]

AIDS Risk and Pee:
My original post said "pee is a bodily fluid and a slight risk of spreading AIDS not like anal sex". I then suggested that if anybody had more expert information please post. I had read that there is a slight risk of spreading AIDS by pee but it was a long time ago. But my post has gotten more heat then light and truth be told some of the heat was created by yours truly. So I did a GOOGLE search to find the truth of the matter.
Pee does NOT spread AIDS from outside the body meaning you will not get AIDS from just from
sitting on a toilet seat. Urine can contain the AIDS virus but in very small amounts. There has been several cases of AIDS spreading thru the mouth
thru urine and other bodily fluids. There has been a few cases of AIDS spreading thru a cut in the skin. Several of the articles made a point of mentioning a pimple is the same as a cut as far as HIV transmission is concerned. One article made a point that there just has not been enough research done about watersports and AIDS. I did not research transmission of other STD's thru urine. I did see several AIDS articles from the 80's saying that urine is a high risk of transmission that is outdated now.
So if I got real lucky and a women said lets hold it all day cuddle under my bed and pee all over each other I would probably judge the risk low enough (depending on the women) to agree to do it. The maid is not giving consent.
Also indirectly related the reason the hope from a few years ago that a cure was near is just about gone at this point is that there are so many mutations of the disease. So we all have to keep a close eye on a situation that may change quickly.
Any expert information is still welcome Dr. Stanley where are you. (He was a poster here a few months back). But for me I am done with this topic.

[Anonymous]

Hey Retroperv, apparently you have missed the point! Taking the protectors off a mattress at a moitel and deliberately peeing on it for a kick or turn on is blatant destruction of personal property. In most cases the only resolution to the problem is to discard and replace the mattress. I realize that the cost of a car doesn't compare with that of a mattress but what you are doing is like someone coming along with a can of spray paint and putting grafitti on your car.

[Anonymous]

Fillherup, if you think i'm gonna stop pissing in motel beds (or at the beach, or where ever else) because of some hypothetical risk of AIDS, you are out of your mind, pure and simple. The risk is so small, i really dont give a fuck. Is that honest enough for ya? I JUST DONT CARE !!!!!!!

The maids are at a REAL risk from all the jizz in motel beds, maybe we should stop cuming in them too. In fact, maybe we should all stop fucking altogether until a cure is found, just so you can relax a little. UNbelievable.

[Anonymous]

Doug: Exactly: It's already included in the price of the room.

Let it flow !!!!!!!!!!! images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Anonymous]

"I JUST DON'T CARE" that says it all.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it does.

[Anonymous]

The bottom line here is- if the bed isn't YOURS, then you should leave it the way you found it (or reasonably close). It's not a function of pee, jizz, etc. I love good food, but I wouldn't intentionally pour gravy or sauce on the unprotected mattress, either!! Fun is fun, but do your own damn clean-up!!

[Anonymous]

In addition to being a long-time peeing enthusiast, a musician, and quite a few other things, I happen also to be an innkeeper. And I would take a very dim view indeed if anyone intentionally ruined one of our mattresses for no other reason than that he or she simply didn't "give a fuck". That person at the very least wouldn't be staying with us again...and could, in fact, be called into small claims court to pay for the damages.

I won't get into it here, but in another time and place, I would be happy to discuss the sorry attitude of self-gratification, lack of respect, disdain for manners, and in-your-face rudeness which has come to dominate our culture in the last couple of decades...and which our friend Mr. Retroperv so eloquently exemplifies.

I am, by the way, proud to be an open-minded progressive (what quietpr would term a liberal)...and I have no love whatsover for the likes of Bush and Ashcroft. But I have even less love for morons who think it's cool to brandish an attitude and a disregard for the people around them. Trite as it may sound, the Golden Rule...rulz!

[Anonymous]

To David England. Can't talk astronomy or sports in pubs either. As a matter of fact I discovered that nothing can be discussed in pubs without problems. So I now speak to no one except to order.

[Anonymous]

Hey Peebot, Creek, and WD12,

WELL SAID!!!!! images/smiles/icon_smile.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif images/smiles/icon_smile.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif images/smiles/icon_smile.gif images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[WD12]

Not trite at all. Pissing a mattress that doesn't belong to you is destroying another person's property. The one time it happened to me was a total accident and if they'd contacted me to pay for it, I would have. Maybe I was irresponsible for not offering to pay for it up-front, but how would anyone like to walk up to the registration counter and say "I soaked your mattress, would you like me to buy it?" I'm a little too shy to do that.