Need Help Please!!

[Anonymous]

I apologize to those of you who have showed interest in me and my messages from time to time. I haven't kept up with messages for several reasons, one of which I will admit here with a good bit of embarrassment.

First, my husband makes it very difficult for me to participate in my wetting love. I do get a little satisfaction from time to time -- especially while he is away on business (as he is now again).

But my confession that I need help with is more personal and sensitive. I am more than a little reluctant to bring it up here and I also fear that I will offend some here (and I don't want to do that). I know that it won't surprise some here when I say that I am incredibly turned on by wetting. That isn't the problem. I don't see much being said about this, but I'll say it here -- I play with myself quite a lot, sometimes during, but almost always after, wetting. I wouldn't try to talk about this here were it not for the fact that after wetting a couple of times and then having a couple of strong orgasms I tend to lose my sex drive. I am embarassed about this since I then usually lose my strong desire to wet. I don't get it -- I love wetting, but it seems that I love it more and am almost driven to do it when my sex drive is strong. So, I wind up with lots of time on my hands sometimes when I could do lots of wetting, but I don't feel like it. I actually sometimes feel ashamed afterward and think "I'll never do that again." But, of course, my feelings build back up again and I start over.

Anyone got any advice? I have the better part of this week alone and I'm actually afraid to start anything because I know after a couple of times it'll be over and the rest of the days will be wasted. I know this is strange... sorry!

[Anonymous]

one of which I will admit here with a good bit of embarrassment.

My first instinct is to tell you that you should not feel embarrassed.

First, my husband makes it very difficult for me to participate in my wetting love. I do get a little satisfaction from time to time -- especially while he is away on business (as he is now again).

I REALLY wish that I could solve the no spouse problem, mainly because I am 'that spouse'. I will as long as I am wanted try to help.

But my confession that I need help with is more personal and sensitive. I am more than a little reluctant to bring it up here and I also fear that I will offend some here (and I don't want to do that).

I doubt...that you would do that after reading this it will happen, ONLY I DO THAT!!!!

I know that it won't surprise some here when I say that I am incredibly turned on by wetting. That isn't the problem. I don't see much being said about this, but I'll say it here -- I play with myself quite a lot, sometimes during, but almost always after, wetting. I wouldn't try to talk about this here were it not for the fact that after wetting a couple of times and then having a couple of strong orgasms I tend to lose my sex drive. I am embarassed about this since I then usually lose my strong desire to wet. I don't get it -- I love wetting, but it seems that I love it more and am almost driven to do it when my sex drive is strong. So, I wind up with lots of time on my hands sometimes when I could do lots of wetting, but I don't feel like it. I actually sometimes feel ashamed afterward and think "I'll never do that again." But, of course, my feelings build back up again and I start over.

Anyone got any advice? I have the better part of this week alone and I'm actually afraid to start anything because I know after a couple of times it'll be over and the rest of the days will be wasted. I know this is strange... sorry![/QB][/QUOTE]


I really cannot comment about the wetting/sex part of this but, I do feel 'somewhat' comfortable commenting on how women feel. I say somewhat only because I do not fit the typical female stereo type. I will clarify, and by no means do I either want to offend-although I am very good at that-(this also is a great example of the differences of the sexes, remember I said that it would do all of us to learn that?)

most women tend to be wishy washy, "honey should I wear the blue dress or the red dress", 'I think the blue'.....she wears the red...ta da. Even for me it makes me wonder why you guys ask. I changed my hair style....I asked...do you like it...yes....days later...do you really like it. What the hell do you think I would have done if he said no.

Women also tend to be back stabbers....oh I wont tell a soal. Enough said.

Women tend to be material, I don't have this problem but, look how many shoes does she have, how many undies, bras, etc....heck guys its on sale...Like Galager(sp) says, she saved you money cause it was on sale.

Women are nurturing....oh honey...you hurt your....

YEAH you know me I could go on

I have a lot of questions to ask you. The answers would help me to comment better. But, my guess is two fold.


Remember we are tying to figure out why the 'sex/wetting drive has ended for a time.

Either, your need for release has become that bad and once it has been 'released' it is that good, or maybe because-which I hope is the case- your man is not there to fulfill those little foreplay querks that we need you do not feel the feeling that you need to feel.

I really do not understand the pants wetting thing at all. But, from a womans perspective, a womans foreplay does not start in bed. It is the little grabs, the little kisses, the little sneaks, ya know what I mean? My thinking is you induldged and he is gone, was gone, is going to be gone.....and is not doing the norm.

It really does not take much to get us women to get 'going' exspecially if we are more so sensitive than most(most women don't want that yuck, most women don't want to 'do it'-ask a married man) so if your man is not there saying-gee what a nice supper as he kisses your neck and grabs your butt, it might not be just you so to speak fulfilling your fantasy.

Advice....how to fulfill what you want? Humpf....I do not understand the need/want to masterbate/or play with ones self....please guys don't jump down my throat for that. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. Have I ever, you bet, and I will not lie here.

I think that you need more relection on why you do what you do. Quite frankly the more experienced wetters here will have more to say than I could ever. But, maybe from what I have read it is more so that you have finalized your desire. Kinda why I built up the woman thing. It takes a building up. Just like women, yes we both are, but, build it up again. What gets you to that point? Is it something that you do for yourself or what your hubby does...that puts you in that frame of mind(sorry guys I really do not get it).

I know what makes me happy, I also know what turns me on. I also know that sometimes it takes work. So you like to wet yourself in what ever fashion...try now to reflect how you get there...try to duplicate it.

I do not like the feel of my pants wet, it is yucky to me to have any wet feeling in my crotch. I use tampons, not pads. Can't stand the feeling, I also though am begining to understand because of my hubby.

with love
Theresa

[DavidEngland99]

Hey, don't be embarrassed - of course you play with yourself. Unless you are lucky enough to have a wet lover - which you don't (and neither do I) the only way to finish is to rub yourself!

Also, I guess it is normal to lose your drive a bit (or get sore!) after one or two orgasms - I guess the answer is to spin things out a bit. Wet a bit and rub yourself only part of the way (or do it outside so you HAVE to wait), then wait a bit and wet a bit more - that way you will be frantic for it when you finally get your orgasm!

Good luck,

David

[DavidEngland99]

BTW, if you would like to chat by email with me about wetting, just go to www.hotmail.com (http://www.hotmail.com) and get yourself a nice anonymous email, and then contact me at david_england99@hotmail.com - I'd love to swap stories with you!

David

[parkvilla]

Hi PissyMrs.

I too (even though I'm male!) suffer the same sort of "fantasy fade out" once I've enjoyed the act. I think this is probably perfectly normal, once one has enjoyed ones self, "one needs a rest as they say in England"!. I do like to keep my wet pants on though, especially in bed. If wifey is around I tend to take them off and clean up. Whilst I love the act and feeling of pants wetting, I'm not keen on the smell of old wee.

Tlili- another set of pearls of wisdom, do keep them coming.

Take care both of you. images/smiles/icon_cool.gif

[Matt]

Hello again!!!!

It goes to show that a person who thinks they have a problem, doesn't actually have a problem and is in effect "Normal", once the problem is aired!!! (did that make any sense?)

I'll try to explain! I thought I was the only person who had that problem!!! After peeing and.. enjoying myself, I regularly find that I have no sex drive at all for two hours (in some cases!)!!! In that time, I might see a very good looking woman - my brain just doesn't register it, where normally I'd nearly crash my car to get a better look!!!

In other cases, I sometimes find that I have such a strong sex drive that I have to pee/enjoy myself as much as 4/5 times in a day. I normally just go for the "once a day, every day", but have also tried to with no sex drive.

This is where things get interesting!!! The thought of pee normally gets me as stiff as a broom handle. I once pissed myself to help me get a stiffy - it didn't work, and I actually thought of myself as dirty and discusting!!! Strange, eh?!

One other last thought is that the times when I do it "under the influence" of sex drive, I quite often find that once that drive has gone, I also feel like "oh, God!!! I've got to get this mess cleaned up again. Bollocks - why did I have to do it in the first place? Couldn't I have just enjoyed myself without it?"

So there you have it! I think you sound quite a bit like me really! I can understand it being a problem for you if you want to have sex with your husband... I can offer no advice there, other than to say that you appear perfectly normal!!!

Hope this reassures you!

Matt

[Anonymous]

Not to get too clinical here, but it is a fact that chronic masturbation often leads to an impaired sex drive. The reasons are psychological, not physical. Masturbating to your fantasies can become an addiction and, as is the case with all addictions, you reach a point where what worked yesterday suddenly doesn't work today. You must have a stronger "drug." You find yourself more and more having to grapple for wilder, more exotic fantasies.

In a worst case scenario, you find yourself no longer having any interest whatsoever in a normal sexual relationship or anything BUT your fantasy world.

Not to put a damper on masturbation or pee-pee fun, but it is reason to put some limits on your indulgence.

[quietpr]

not to be too negative to Creek, but I'd like to see a citation to an article discussion proof of his claims. I for one have thus far not fit his generalization in the least.

I will admit to masturbating after a wetting...but I have not noticed a significantly reduced sex drive, and my wetting routines haven't significantly changed in 6 years of regular wetting. I haven't been grappling with more and more exotic fantasies...I'm pretty much still where I was, with a few minor additions and improvements.

So I don't for a second believe your statements are true for everybody.

[PissyMrs]

Thanks to everyone (as usual). I was a little nervous about the first response, not sure exactly how to take it I guess. It made me cry a little at first, guess I don't need to feel any more abnormal than I already do at times.

That so many of you share in my situation is awesome! Your advice helps more than you can know. Of course I know to stop some of my playing if it gets too hot and will push me over the edge and I'll lose my drive -- but sometimes it's just too good and I can't stop. I've done the "building up the feeling and expectation" thing and it IS good, but sometimes I just get too close to the edge and I HAVE to push it over!

So, I'm doing great today. I'm going to try to not go pee all day while at work (while drinking as I normally do). I've never been able to make that before, so we'll see what kind of shape I'm in when I get home this afternoon! Then I'll be free to do whatever I want...

[pissysue]

mrs pissy, not intrested in a holding contest with me online? post details if that is what you want...if your intrested in that sort of thing.

xoxoxox pissysue

[DavidEngland99]

I agree with Quietpr. Creek's caution sounds like something from a sex manual published in the 1930's! I thought it was an established fact that almost all men and most women masturbate to a greater or lesser extent and that this is now considered totally 'normal'. I have even heard it said that it is beneficial in that it keeps people 'in practice' as it were.

Finally, I guess everyone who masturbates has a theme of some sort running through their heads as they do it.

David

[PissyMrs]

Hey Sue,

I'd be interested in a contest, but I'm kinda new at this, so you need to give me the details.

Nights are best for me by the way... Central time, USA

[Anonymous]

Re: quietpr's response

I didn't say it affects everyone that way--I said it "often" "can" lead to problems. I do my share of masturbating and playing pee-pee games, too, without any problems. As I pointed out, it's like anything else. Do it in moderation and you're fine. But get carried away with it and it could become compulsive and disruptive. If you find yourself doing it more and more, but enjoying it less and less, then you should see that as a major red flag. May be time to back off.

[Matt]

I think Mr Creek does have a point, actually!!! As I mentioned in my post, earlier, after 5 periods of pleasure in one day, I might not be able to raise so much as a smile the next day (or longer!!)!!! It all depends on how long it takes to replenish your stocks, as it were!!!

Regards,

Matt

(P.S. I did get your message, Mrs Pissy!!! - It was sent to my private Email address (which is how the system works)) lol

[quietpr]

Well if you masturbate and play peeing games five times a day...that to me says you're a bit of a sex addict. I've never felt the need to pee myself and masturbate 5 times in a single day. I think for the bulk of people...probably well over 3/4 of them...it is nearly impossible to masturbate so often you lose interest in it. And that doesn't particularly sound like PissyMrs. Problem. She sounds like she plays these pee-pee games in moderation and still loses interest. That to me sounds like some sort of depression cycle more than a problem with over-masturbating.

All fetishests go through a cycle from a build up of need to do their fetish, through the climax of that need, which becomes somewhat frantic, to the resolution in some sexual act, and through the temporary downswing in interest, which for most is only a few hours to a day or so...perhaps her downswing is longer trhan normal, but I don't see that as some deeper psychological problem with masturbation...nor do I see it as a reason she should change her habits.

If you feel like holding it and peeing yourself, do it PissyMrs...if that leads you to want to masturbate, there's nothing wrong with that. If afterwards you lose interest for a while, so be it...

[Matt]

When I said that I had masturbated 5 times in a day, that was just a one off occasion where if I'd been any more horny, I would have been applying for the Devil's job!!!

I don't know what other peoples habits are, but I find once a day is quite reasonable... but like I said, I don't always do it everyday although I very rarely leave it as long as 3 days, unless I'm ill, or not in a place where it is possible to do it!!!

I wouldn't say I'm sex mad, in fact, I never get any, and tend to get quite bored!!!

Afterall, you've got to find something to replace a lack of women??? Supposing I was with someone... would it be excessive of us to go to bed early every night??? I mean, c'mon! I spend less time upstairs than Peter Stringfellow, right?!!! lol

Regards,

Matt images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[pissysue]

mrs pissy,

ok this is how it will go, thursday night. at 8 pm we will get online. you will have to have drunk 1 liter at least by 8 pm. then on each half hour we will drink about 16 ounces of drink straight though, with a 5 minute time limit to complete. so dont drink anything carbonated, either water, or punch, or liqouer. what ever you like and can drink fast. then by say 10 we will see how long we can hold what we can contain in our bladders till we absolutely cant hold it anymore, witting at the computer. must pee pee in panties. but keep in mind, it really is not a must. just makes things a lot more interesting. And the game more fun. Dont hurt yourself though. And obviously the first one to give up loses.

xoxoxo pissysue

[PissyMrs]

Sorry Sue,

Looks like I'll have to pass this time (no pun intended). Some business came up and I can't be home before 10:00 or so...

[quietpr]

To Matt...of course just the one time that you did it five times isn't a problem...if you were masturbating 5 times every day I'd say...OW!! That would rub me really raw. images/smiles/icon_smile.gif And I'd say you were in it too much. But anything at or less than one or two times a day should be ok.

[Matt]

LOL!!!!!!!!! images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

What else can I say???? (tee hee)

Matt images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Anonymous]

To the Prissy gals: If and when you get around to your contest, maybe you could share a little of it with the rest of us by providing some progress reports images/smiles/icon_smile.gif at:

http://jupiter.beseen.com/chat/rooms/h/653/

And for those of you who are into fiction, we'll be re-releasing Chapter 3 of the Qerri adventures this weekend at:

http://www.gvtc.com/~frith/dragon.htm

[Anonymous]

Pissy,I mean....not prissy images/smiles/icon_smile.gif ...sorry ladies.

[Mylilweb]

I guess I will throw my two cents worth in too.
I am male in my 40s and find that after I indulge in either pee fun or other types of sexual gratification sometimes it takes awile to get really psyched up for the same thing again.
I would become turned on perhaps by something different though. Like say I pee myself and masturbate then wanted to wet again. Sometimes just doing that would be a turn on but other times a switch on the theme would make it interesting again. Say perhaps being told I cannot go to the bathroom and being told when desperate to wet myself would be more fun.
Or even better seeing some one else wet especially a woman.
Sort of variations on the same thing but wow.
I have had wet relationships before and livng with a wetter actually we had to find different ways to indulge in our shared fetish to continue our peak arousal.
I suppose I have rambled enough, feel free to write and chat if you like.
Hugs and puddles, sunchild images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Anonymous]

This is kinda stupid for me to respond futher to this subject, here goes....

I agree with Creek-I think that the comments Creek made though were taken way to seriously. There is a lot to say for all aspects of our minds/brains/beings and the ways in which we train our minds. I am by no means an expert, but here is my thought process.

If we continually fulfill a need by doing, that is not met, one thing....the example that I will use is not one that matches the subject of this board, my intent is only to make you think not that it is my job just to give an example more so.

If a woman is very lonely, say she never sees the one person she longs for she may take to chocolate, exercise or drugs. The loneliness disapears and the addiction begins(not really but it feels that way). This is not a chosen road, just one that is all too common in many areas, including the people on this board that have certain unfulfilled desires.

I 'think' what Creek was saying is close to what I have said. If not, sorry I will shut up. If we think about all of what is shared on this board maybe that makes more sense than what I want to believe.

I think of my friend who became anorexic(sp?), and how neglected she was, was she just replacing one thing for another? I do not think that masterbation or menstrabation is wrong. If your desires are not met, or mine. We find a way to meet that desire ourselves. I personally feel that then the out of the norm becomes the norm, that the norm is no longer. Thus if the lonely woman who turned to some other form of happiness or companionship finally has the companionship she desired-it just is not that easy to feel what she missed in the beginning. Did that make sense? Thus what Creek said I agree with.

Hope that makes some sense.

[quietpr]

Well, I would go so far as to say I long for a lifelong companion that I have not yet found, and my attraction to individual watersports has changed very little in the past few years. I mean I know we are all different, but if I'm going on personal experience, would say that I do not believe my interest for watersports is some subconscious addiction to fill a relationship void...sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Sometimes you do something and because you just did it, you don't feel the desire to do it again for awhile...and if that happens, sometimes its not some deep and vast statement about your psychological condition...it just is.

People these days have taken to reading WAY too much into life's idiosyncracies. Whole fields of pseudo-science have developed to please the masses of folks trying to read deep meaning into everything. It sometimes isn't there.

[Anonymous]

you should never feel shame or guilt. we all have our needs and you are not causing harm to anyone.
if you feel the need to talk one on one please email me. i am a 57 year old male.
winderone2001@yahoo.com

[Jason]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by &lt;PissyMrs>:
Well i must say i too feel guilty after I pee. I pee in a small bottle becuase I'm temparaly living witih my parents until I find another job. But anyway I drink some of my pee, and I get such a turn on. I get the most hardest errection that I could ever get. Then I too rub myself with the help of some lubrication. And I have cum and urine all over the place and all over me. Then I feel really guilty thinking that I'm a very disgusting person and that I'll never do that agian. I also feel this way after drinking my own piss. But what incourages me to feel better about who I really am, is to read messages like yours. It tells me that hey what I do is a normal thing. Other adults men and women like to wet-themselves too, and pee in diferent ways in thier pantties outside etc. Peeing on someone. Thier's hundreds of thousands of messages here. And the same numbers of pee, panttie wetting sites out thier on-line that I'm just begging to become aware of. Sadly to have complete access to those kinds of places on-line to view pattie wetting clips and other pee'en clips you have to have a checking acct. Or credit card which I have neither. But somehow I did find a site where I could view a woman trying to hold it and peeing on the floor. That by far was the most erotic thing I ever saw. So don't feel bad about wetting yourself then masturbating with your urine. That is a normal thing to do. Urine and pee, wetting oursleves is a normal natural thing for our bodies to do. The more I read messages like yours the more encouraged I get to be my "WET" self. And I would'nt want to be with anyone who did'nt enjoy wetting and pee'en as i do becuase the relationship would'nt be as enjoyable. Find someone who enjoys what you enjoy becuase you'll never be truly happy wit your current partner. If he dosen't at least explore the posslbiltys and even after that. Piss on his side of the bed and on his clothes and actually on him. Before he wakes up then leave and find aomeone who likes what you do. Sadly wetting and pee'en isn'nt the first thing you ask a person if they enjoy that when you fisrt meet them. Or maybe when you feel more comfortable with who you are you and I would be able to ask a person right off the bat."Do you enjoy wetting your self and pee'en pissing on somebody for pleasure. Going out side to piss. etc. Hey if they find me or you disgusting hey it's "THIER" loss not ours! Well find someone who enjoys what we do and have higher self esteem and can fully enjoy our lives because of it.
I apologize to those of you who have showed interest in me and my messages from time to time. I haven't kept up with messages for several reasons, one of which I will admit here with a good bit of embarrassment.

First, my husband makes it very difficult for me to participate in my wetting love. I do get a little satisfaction from time to time -- especially while he is away on business (as he is now again).

But my confession that I need help with is more personal and sensitive. I am more than a little reluctant to bring it up here and I also fear that I will offend some here (and I don't want to do that). I know that it won't surprise some here when I say that I am incredibly turned on by wetting. That isn't the problem. I don't see much being said about this, but I'll say it here -- I play with myself quite a lot, sometimes during, but almost always after, wetting. I wouldn't try to talk about this here were it not for the fact that after wetting a couple of times and then having a couple of strong orgasms I tend to lose my sex drive. I am embarassed about this since I then usually lose my strong desire to wet. I don't get it -- I love wetting, but it seems that I love it more and am almost driven to do it when my sex drive is strong. So, I wind up with lots of time on my hands sometimes when I could do lots of wetting, but I don't feel like it. I actually sometimes feel ashamed afterward and think "I'll never do that again." But, of course, my feelings build back up again and I start over.

Anyone got any advice? I have the better part of this week alone and I'm actually afraid to start anything because I know after a couple of times it'll be over and the rest of the days will be wasted. I know this is strange... sorry!<hr></blockquote>

[Val]

Who said the major sex organ is the brain? Sounds to me like that horrible word 'Ought' is creeping in along with a lot of dissatisfaction in a vicious circle because it leads to dissatisfaction. It's something I get occasionally and at heart is probably depressive or at least disappointed. However uninterested a partner may be in one sexual aspect, missing that partner is going to leave a more general sense of dissatisfaction, so libido is probably lower anyway. Women seem to need a good mood to become sexual, where men will lose themselves in sex to get out of a bad one but afterwards it still feels unsatisfactory. Something similar seems to be happening here, as if trying to force sex when there isn't a real physical excitement will cause all the good feelings that usually have to precede it. In fact, it sounds a lot like the worries men can have when an erection just won't come even though your mind wants it (because sometimes) but you're just too tired, it's the wrong person, you've just got the sack. I'd guess that part is loss of partner and part is remembering the disappointment that even if he were around he wouldn't be interested. I was going in for some extensive wait-&-wet games before Xmas, with imaginary partners doing interesting things to my genitals that I couldn't actually be bothered to do for myself. Now, though thinking about it turns me on, I can't be bothered to do because I have more work responsibilities and possiblities of real, if not wet, female contact there. The more you worry of course, the more it worries you. I'll bet there are thousands of situations where everybody on this board has run for the loo without the slightest turn-on because other things took priority. Women think men will respond to any woman at all. So do some men, but they forget that demented alcoholic leering in the doorway. Women are even harder to turn on - or rape couldn't happen. It sounds more a nuisance than a worry. It's like the feeling immediately after a bad relationship of being free, then a few days later wondering what was so bad about it and just feeling lost.

To images/smiles/icon_razz.gif issyMrs
no need to be shy or embarrassed, we are all here to enjoy the same things(the sexual gratification that can be assosiated with watersports in all thier veriaty.
it is normal to lose your drive after orgasm and the older we get the longer rest we need, also your unfounded guilt most likely causes that be longer, not that you enjoy wetting more than sex.
Please do not let your husbands inhibitions stop you from enjoying who and what you are. I for one wish my wife were more like you, however catholic school will drive her forever.
I also wet and masturbate with out benefit of a mate, and while I am not as public as some here I will not let my wifes inhibitions stop me or make me feel guilty abiut it
please if you would like to talk to male about it email me

[daddypunishgirl]

[quote="PissyMrs"]Sorry Sue,

poor girl did u do it on perpose.
Don't worry I like to do it too on propose.
go for it.