for Jeff, Mark, Matt etc.

[Anonymous]

Hi, guys!!!

Many thanks for your words, you’ve all been so kind, I’m delighted to hear that you all enjoyed my story.
Besides, I love having male friends, as I have always been used to discussing with them openly about everything, as I feel this eventually leads to an improved and very positive understanding between sexes.

Many thanks Matt, for giving me a thorough explanation of the risks you may run while holding on a plane, next time I’ll just go for a different spot.

This also raised my curiosity because one of my best friend-girl’s boyfriend, at least once, flew from Italy to LA (via London) without taking a pee break. A superb holder? No, nothing like that really. This guy has had a hyperbashful bladder since his childhood, and, what is worse, has never considered seeing a doctor. There is no other place he can possibly urinate, but his place and some very nice hotel room. He must have developed a special ability to live with a constant pressure inside him which I believe he does not enjoy. I have a feeling he simply does not realise that, contrary to what people generally believe, yes, you can experience bladder rupture, something rather messy, I suppose. Plus, the permanent build up of toxins in his body. Possibly he is not aware of the risks he just runs every day. All I know is that sometimes he is so desperate, his bladder so bursting, or rather agonising, he just faints.

Obviously things sound very different for people who deliberately push themselves into desperation and just quit when they feel that have had enough.

Back to your question Jeff, no, the airport is about 40 minutes away from our place, not extremely far, I would certainly have made it home possibly without even showing distress. What really put me off was the fact that on the following day we were to meet people, including my husband's boss, and I did not want to be pissing all day (as it invariably happens after holding very long). Not only that, I had already planned a superbursting session for Sunday morning followed by full-bladder sex, too bad my husband woke up too desperate for holding other four seconds, something very rare of him, let alone four hours as I eventually did.
As for the problem of holding on during sex, yes I can confirm for you what the girl you chatted with maintained, in a sense that it is absolutely true that a well-placed penis works as a very nice cork for the female pee hole. There is just one problem, or even two in case it is a lucky day. The first pops up upon entry, which from the female prospective can be rather painful with a full bladder, possibly because of your tightly-clenched muscles. What is more, the cork is not there yet... for the second, ok, women are different from men, and there is times you cannot reach a climax, no matter how long you try ( a red herring: I’ve never faked an orgasm in my life, never, ‘cause I feel you should not lie to the person you make love to. Many women do it for the noblest reason, but still, I believe it is wrong in the end). But in case you can reach it, well, I just have the feeling that holding wouldn’t be that simple. But as you rightly pointed out, just give it another try.

Gotta go now guys. Well, one more thing, Matt and Mark. Now it is up to you to come up with a story of yours. As once Jeff pointed out, give and you shall receive...

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Lots of love, Andromeda

[Anonymous]

Just a thought, but if a guy has a 'bashful bladder' so much so that he waits for hours in pain till he gets home, then, as you say yourself, won't he be pissing all day the next day, thus curing his bashful bladder? Maybe bashful bladder readers could confirm this?

[Matt]

Some interesting comments, there! Just as a thought, if this guy has held it until he faints - would that not have left him with a rather soggy pair of pants??? I once - hey that reminds me!! - saw a girl who fainted, and she pissed herself whilst unconcious!!! She was bloody fit an' all!!!

Think I'd better start writing about that one!

I think you should take the bus or train next time, Andromeda - these are "safe" places to hold it!!!

Regards,

Matt

[Anonymous]

There are web sites available to help people with bashfull bladder problems

[Anonymous]

no, guys, as far as I know (I may be wrong of course) his bladder is so bashful he cannot urinate even whilst unconsciuos. needless ot say, he would not admit the very reason why he fainted was because hais convulsing bladder muscles were claiming to much blood, cheers...

[Anonymous]

I almost forgot, Matt.
Yes, I have to admit that your hold & fly explanation really caught my attention. That's why I would like to put a question to you.
As it is generally observed in physics, and as you rightly pointed out, the higher you get, the more air pressure decreases. the problem is, particularly in case you have a bumpy flight, suppose the cabin pressure alters as a result of an air pocket hitting, well, having a full bladder can be somewhat risky .(what a shame!!!)
Now on the one hand, after you made me notice, I can recall that my bladder was almost bursting before take-off, but as the plane got higher, the (bladder) pressure kind of suspended. Later, when the plane began its landing, it resumed again, very strong. Possibly this is the reason.

Anyway, here is my question. As you know, just because the aircraft in bad whether can be tossed about a bit, or a lot,you are normally not allowed to leave your seat, and in fact, you are directed to say seated with your seat belt fastened. Needless to say, you cannot use the toilet, just in case you need it. this has never been a problem for me so far (now I'm a bit scared) as I like holding, and I have to admit that doing in on a plane gave me a special kick.


But aren't the crew aware of the fact that just in case some of the passengers have a very full bladder, denying them a wee as it often happens (for safety reasons of course) might in fact put just their own safety in jeopardy?

Looking forward to hearing a (feet-on-the ground) story from you, stay full,
love, Andromeda

[quietpr]

According to the Journal of the American Medical Associated, a ruptured bladder occurs from hyper-extension (over-holding) only if the bladder muscles are extended approximately 2.5 times their normal size. A man would have to incur more than a gallon of pee to burst his bladder (a man with a normal sized bladder to begin with).

Moreover, urine toxicity can only cause a person to become seriously ill if it exceeds a level rouhgly equivalent to about a cup of the toxins from urine escaping into the blood-stream. I don't think your pee-shy friend is in any really serious danger.

I am an accomplished holder, and have gone for almost 25 hours without peeing...and have held as much as 1.8 liters of pee (not in the same hold oddly enough). I can tell you from experience of many holders I know that an overnight plane trip from Europe to the US, or even from the far East to Europe is probably not a long enough time gap to cause a bladder rupture of blood-toxicity danger.

[Anonymous]

thanks for your post and for providing us with further information. yes, I agree that an intercontinental flight does not seem to last enough to cause bladder rupture, the topic was raised just because Matt warned us about the dangers of flying with a very full bladder, regardless of the length of the flight.
On the contrary, I'm convinced that my super pee-shy friend should try to find a solution to his problem, particularly because it causes him a fair degree of suffering. I've seen him in sheer agony several times, unable to relieve himself for 48 odd hours (much more than your best-even 25 or mine, which is 20) and I can tell you that I did not enjoyed the show, though I like male desperation stories quite immensely, as many posters of this site know all too well.
I'm a die-hard holder myself, but I generally try to space my superbursting sessions in between, so as to allow my bladder to recover from strain. At the same time, I have noticed that many other people who frequntly go for holds, behave accordingly.
Waiting for your reply, and thanks for joining us.
Cheers

[Anonymous]

Hi again Andromeda,

Interesting thoughts on full bladder sex. In scanning these message boards, I've seen comments from women who can't pee during orgasm, comments from women who can't orgasm without peeing, and some who seem to be able to do either at will. I had a live chat with a woman one night who was just completing her first 24 hour hold and she topped it off by rubbing herself to multiple orgasms. Unfortunately, when she was done she found herself completely unable to urinate for several minutes. Needless to say she was frightened as by now her need to pee was quite intense. I was able to calm her down enough that she could relax and finally relieve herself. Her muscles must have been "stuck" from holding so long, compounded by the contractions that normally accompany orgasm.

As far as not wanting to overtax your bladder on Friday, probably a good idea. I find that I am usually running to the bathroom frequently for at least a day after a long hold. And by the way, women aren't the only ones who sometimes can't climax. I can't speak for all guys, but I've had a few occasions where I just couldn't reach a climax to save my life, for whatever reason. Very frustrating.

Anyway, by all means continue with the experiments. Many of us eagerly await your reports. images/smiles/icon_smile.gif Take care,

Jeff

[Matt]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by &lt;Andromeda>:

Anyway, here is my question. As you know, just because the aircraft in bad whether can be tossed about a bit, or a lot,you are normally not allowed to leave your seat, and in fact, you are directed to say seated with your seat belt fastened. Needless to say, you cannot use the toilet, just in case you need it. this has never been a problem for me so far (now I'm a bit scared) as I like holding, and I have to admit that doing in on a plane gave me a special kick.


But aren't the crew aware of the fact that just in case some of the passengers have a very full bladder, denying them a wee as it often happens (for safety reasons of course) might in fact put just their own safety in jeopardy?

Looking forward to hearing a (feet-on-the ground) story from you, stay full,
love, Andromeda<hr></blockquote>

Hi Andromeda!!!

I've only just read your question, so here goes!
>>>

It is normal practice to use the loo before getting on the plane. In the event that everything is "last minute", there is normally opportunity to use the loo on the plane, before takeoff.

The fact is though, that supposing you are on one of these bumpy rides...
The aircraft drops 200ft in less than 1second (which is quite possible) - a grown man falls at approx 90ft/second - you are going to seriously smack your head on the roof!!! The risk of injury from an over-full bladder, and the risk of spinal injury from being thrown about in a plane.. well, there's not much contest really! Your much more likely to injure yourself seriously by being out of your seat. As a further thought, in the event of cabin de-pressurisation, if you aren't in your seet when the oxygen mask falls, you could die. I'll explain...
If the aircraft depressurises at 15,000ft, you will have approx 8mins useful thinking time, before your body secumbs to hypoxia (altitude sickness - ultimately leading to unconciousness and death). After that 8min period is up, your brain will not be working properly, and the simplest of tasks will become impossible i.e. putting an oxygen mask on!

By contrast, at 40,000ft, the 8minutes useful thinking time has reduced to 4.5 seconds!!!

If you're not sat in your seet at 40,000 feet, and the cabin depressurises, you won't be able to get an oxygen mask in time. Hope that answers your question! You would be extremely unlucky to suffer a ruptured bladder/blood vessels etc., but better that than death!


The other thing you mentioned was the fact that higher altitudes allow you to hold more. This should technically be true and as you quite rightly say, when you descend, it feels as though you are filling up at twice the pace! As all the pressures are relative, and cabin pressure should not exceed 7000ft, the effects of this should not be too noticable. Of course, if your bladder feels like it's about to burst in flight, you may well notice a considerable difference as you land. As a measure of the air pressures you're dealing with:- ground level you might experience 1013mb (millibars/hectopascals), at 40,000ft you might be experiencing less than 200mb!!!

These measurements are of a european standard - in the States, you use a measurement known as Inches of Mercury - a measurement which I do not fully understand.

The simple answer is (seeing as we've had the long winded one!) not to do anything to increase the chances of something going wrong when you're flying. An airline would not take too kindly to being forced to land (at an approx. cost of £20,000) just because you wanted to see how much you could hold!!!!! lol

Hope you can understand all that, and that it answers your questions! (and God, I knew those textbooks would come in useful some time!!)

Regards,

Matt

[Anonymous]

"An airline would not take too kindly to being forced to land (at an approx. cost of £20,000) just because you wanted to see how much you could hold!!!!! lol"

I loved it!!! Yes, posters here are able to make fun of themselves at its right time! well, generally people who can do so, make very happy individuals. That's why I like this site so much, cheers........

[Anonymous]

I do not get on airplanes enough but even without bieng forced to your seat by turbulance and airplane would cause anybody who is the least bit pee shy to hold to the end of the flight. You to excuse yourself to get out of your seat go thru a crowded aisle with food trays in your way with everybody watching you. The bathrooms are small and it has to be awkward for a women with even the normal turbulance.
I don't recall ever seeing a stewardess use a bathroom. What is the policy for stewardesses and pee breaks?

[Anonymous]

Yes! Too bad holding on a plane is rather dangerous, as Matt has kindly explained to us!!!
I'll never take that chance again myself. It's a shame though, it just felt so great!!!!