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Seafarer58
Fri, 21 Nov 03, 12:05 PM
Hi, everybody! I'm a 45-year-old guy and I've just registered here.

What I find most exciting is a lady needing to pee desperately, but has to hold it in for some reason - a meeting at work which she can't leave, for example. It's more the desperation than the wetting which turns me on! Does this make me a minority of 1?! I find it particularly arousing if she tries her best NOT to let anyone know her situation, and watching for the subtle signs of her increasing need.

Are there ladies here who're often in that situation, or like to hold their full bladders till they're almost bursting? I'd love to hear from you.

Fri, 21 Nov 03, 3:15 PM
I like desperation and the sound of a woman peeing rather than wetting and humiliation.
I wrote a story of desperation and play that I enjoyed and it seems the girl who I was with still remembers fondly in my post "Memories".
My two cents Seafearer58 we are similar age,
Nbear8

Anonymous
Fri, 21 Nov 03, 7:03 PM
Hello Seafarer58,

You are not alone! I for one am mainly a desperation fan, and there are others like us posting on this board. Of the male posters I'd say that most like wetting, while a good majority of these like desperation too. A smaller number of posters would like only desperation - but we're not an insignificant minority.

All of the things you mentioned make a great desperation sighting, and would no doubt get me into a cold sweat, trying my best not to shake with the excitment of it all!

You know, there are in fact a few ladies out there who like desperation too, in men or other women, or sometimes both! I thought it was only a pervy male thing - but I was pleasantly surprised to find it is not.

Anyhow, enjoy the site, and please do post 'desperation sightings'. I personaly like some good descriptions of just what a desperate girl did to try and hold it in, all the leg crossing, fidgeting, pee-dancing and constant moving etc. No detail is too small!!

Wriggle it

Captain Pants
Fri, 21 Nov 03, 8:48 PM
I agree with Wriggle it, I am an avid desperation fan, my heart starts to pound when I know a woman is having difficulty. Having said that I will always do my best to actuially help a woman with her plight find a loo and have been in several situations where it felt like the right thing to do.

So you are not alone, there are plenty of female desperado's out there, who love to see a man unable to releive himself, and vice versa. I see nothing wrong with it, like yourself I actualy prefer the desperation part but do not not say no to seeing an accident after or panty peeing for the sheer hell of it, in my eyes it's all part and parcel of the panty wetting experience. :wink:

CP

Druss
Fri, 21 Nov 03, 10:33 PM
Wriggle it and Captain Pants say it for me, too - there doesn't have to be any wetting, just a woman who is frantic for the toilet, especially if she is trying not to show it

Welcome aboard!

fullbladder
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 1:04 AM
Personally, I just like holding and desperation. Wetting doesn't turn me on in the least.

Anonymous
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 1:17 AM
Yes, Desperation is the tops for me too.
so seafarer, you can see you are 1 of many desperation fans here.

Despo.

Seafarer58
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 1:37 AM
That's good to know! I'll certainly post some of the sightings I've had the good fortune to see.

By the way, do any of you ladies find it arousing to be desperate for the toilet??

Anonymous
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 2:20 AM
Answer to questions by seafarer 58:
If you like desperation read my recent posting about holding your bladder during a business meeting. I have been desperate to piss on different occasions driving into and from work, while shopping, and sometimes while on a date. I drink a lot of fluids and have to piss often. Sometimes I try to hold my bladder until the bursting point just as a challenge. Other times I do it to turn both men and women on as I like to see their reactions. I do get very horny when my bladder is really full and don't mind pissing out of doors if I can't hold it. I love to masturbate myself or have sex immediately after releasing the contents of my bladder. Seems lots of women like to hold their bladders to the bursting point as well because it feels so good to let it out and I think many of them also get very horny while struggling to hold it in.
Jackie M

Crazyhorse
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 9:36 AM
Hi Seafarer. I'm a desperation fan too, although I dont mind wetting. Lots of women seem to enjoy sex either with, or soon after a full bladder. I wonder if that is because the signals from the nerves to the brain have been on high frequency, so to speak, that it has made the brain much more receptive to anything from that part of the body.

Just a naive thought.

Captain Pants
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 9:48 AM
Lucky for us guys there are women like JackieM 8)

Shame I never seem to meet any of them! :x

CP

Anonymous
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 10:16 AM
Welcome Seafarer58 and please post those desperation stories. Glad to see some of the this boards "old timers" bringing desperation back a bit after it had been trending the other way for a year or so.

Anonymous
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 5:35 PM
JackieM. Interesting post. Would you say that most of the time you made it to the loo on time and only had accidents occasionally or does there tend to be a 50/50 split in terms of the various outcomes?

Seafarer58
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 6:24 PM
I read your 'post', JackieM. And I LOVED it!! In fact, that's my favourite situation - a lady wanting to 'go' desperately at work. I love the thought of a lady dressed in a smart business suit, looking so cool and poised on the outside, but holding a brim-full bladder, and trying not to let anyone know her situation. I think that's so much more erotic than wetting yourself (with no offense intended towards wetting fans!) I agree with Capt Pants - lucky for us there are ladies like JackieM!

Captain Pants
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 6:36 PM
I like women in that sort of situation too Seafarer, especially the business suit idea, tight knee length skirt, stockings, jacket, oh, and don't forget the black high heels!! - she has had several large cappuchinos since breakfast and it's now 11am at the beginning of the meeting....I could go on but most people here would get bored! :roll: Needless to say she is very lady-like and composed, but there comes a point where she is beginning to give tell-tale signs of her impending desperation...the bit I like! :lol:

I think we all get the jist! :wink:

Three cheers for JackieM!! :mrgreen:

CP

Estelle
Sat, 22 Nov 03, 7:52 PM
This is an off-topic reply but do any of the other women here just hate being referred to as "ladies"? We never talk about "gentlemen" so why "ladies". I ain't no lady! However, this will not come as news to those of you who know my contributions to the board!

OK' I'm nitpicking but I really do find the word "lady" a turn off. That said, it occurs to me that I'm against all censorship, so I suppose I'll have to let you use it!

Princess Estelle

Anonymous
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 12:01 AM
Thanks for all the excitement over my bladder desperation and non-ability to hold it in sometimes. I do have occasional accidents about 10% of the time, but am really desperate quite often. I usually wear short skirts as they make it much easier to pee when desperate or taking a quick piss outdoors. I can squat down, pull my panties aside, and let out my piss very easily.
Love,
JackieM

Seafarer58
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 1:27 AM
Most of the incidents - of a lady wanting to go to the toilet badly - that I've seen, concern my wife's sister. I'll refer to her as 'D'.

From quite an early age, around the time she left school and started working, it was common knowledge among the family that she wouldn't use a toilet outside home. Her excuses were the usual - too busy at work, toilets not clean etc etc. I was visiting her older sister (who later became my wife) at the time, so I was often at their place. As it happened, I was usually there first (after work), and D would arrive home some time later.

Fortunately (from the point of view of enjoying the situation!) D is one of those ladies who doesn't like to let anyone else know she needs a toilet. What she tries to do is to slip away unnoticed. This means that, when she arrives home, she doesn't head straight for the toilet but stops to chat for a while with anyone who's there. I would try to engage her in conversation as long as possible, but of course I couldn't make it obvious that I was deliberately keeping her from the toilet. But I'm absolutely sure she always knew what I was doing, and enjoyed it! She would remain chatting, until her need was too much even for her to hide the signs any longer. She was pretty good at it, but of course eventually she wouldn't be able to prevent herself crossing her legs more and more tightly, and shifting around in her seat. Finally, when she just couldn't wait any more, without making her need too obvious, she would say "I'll talk to you later!" and go to the toilet, but still retaining her poise - no rushing, just a quick walk.

I'll tell you about certain specific incidents in later posts, but meanwhile, would JackieM or any of the other ladies tell us how you handle it, when you're bursting for a pee but can't get away, and you also don't want anyone around to know either??

Seafarer58
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 1:30 AM
OK then. no 'lady'! 'Woman' it shall be.

Anonymous
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 2:36 AM
Just new to this message board I posted a story about getting stuck in traffic with a bursting bladder coming home from a Jets football game with a new date yesterday. I am a professional woman who has to constantly pee because I drink a lot of coffee, tea, bottled water, etc. Seems I am in a bladder holding pattern often.
Scanning through the postings I found a situation that happened to me a couple of months ago. The posting is entitled " Women Only-Locked Bathrooms On Airplanes ", by Dakota 88 back in the middle of June.
I was taking a flight out of Newark, NJ airport with my boss in the morning but we got stuck in traffic on our way to the airport. My morning coffee and a bottle of bottled water had filled my bladder by the time we reached the airport. We had to hurry to meet our flight and go through extensive security. Although I had to pee, I decided to hold it in until we boarded the plane because there was no time to go to the ladies bathroom and I am somewhat shy about letting anyone with me know I have to pee and can't wait ( except my best friend Mercedes ).
By the time we went through the security checks and boarded the plane I really had to go bad. After locating our seats I told my boss I was going to the back of the plane to get some water as my mouth was very dry ( I didn't want to let on that I had to go to the bathroom so soon ). I went to the back of the plane and found the bathroom doors all locked. A flight attendent came up and she told me the doors had to be locked for security reasons but would be unlocked once the pilot announced we could walk around after reaching the proper flying altitude. I asked her to please open the door and make an exception as I was really desperate and couldn't wait much longer. We'll being taking off momentarily and there are not a lot of planes stacked up on the runway she told me, so you should be able to wait as it would only be another 20 minutes or so. I told her I didn't think I could hold it that long and to please let me urinate as it would only be a minute or so. I was told politely to please go back to my seat and wait as we were about to take off.
I returned to my seat and my boss asked if I got some water. I told him yes. As the plane taxied to the runway and had to wait about 10 minutes before takeoff, I had to go so bad. We finally took off and began our ascent. I had my legs tightly crossed and wanted told hold it in with my hand but was too embarrassed to do it in front of my boss. Miracles of miracles, I was able to hold it in, not letting my boss know my desperate situation.
Finally the pilot announced we could move around the cabin and I just bolted from my seat and headed for the nearest bathroom. When I reached the bathroom I had to wait for the flight attendent to unlock the door. I was about to pee down my leg but had to hold it in with my hand as she unlocked the door. I was wearing a light powder blue business suit which had a short skirt. Thank God for the short skirt as I ran into the toilet, pulled my skirt up, sat down on the toilet and peed right through my panties as they were already wet from trying to hold it in by the door. Although I am a professional woman I have to go so bad at times and try to hold my bladder until an opportunity arises. I am embarrassed when I am about to burst and pee into the toilet bowl very loudly with my pee " spraying " so loud into the bowl. When this type of pressure is present, the pee actually " sprays " off the front of the toilet bowl without hitting the water and makes such a loud hiss that I am embarrassed. Luckily I had another pair of panties in my purse which I put on and threw my soaked panties in the trash.
When I returned to my seat, my boss asked me where I ran off to and I told him I had some air sickness but was OK now. I don't think he knew that I had to pee or just how desperate I was. But it felt so good to expel all that liquid I amazingly was able to hold in.
I haven't figured it out yet, but when I am absolutely " bursting at the seams ", I find it highly erotic trying to hold it in, practically come by letting it out because of the relief sensation, yet am worried about not being able to hold it in and will embarrass myself if I wet myself while other people are present. I am so curious about peeing, especially when other women get into similar situations, that I like to read about their dilemmas and can talk about mine anonymously on this message board. Seems there are other women like myself who have to pee very often, "spray " out their pee very hard and noisy, and also have a hard time trying to hold it in. Many report ecstasy/orgasms before, during, or after a really desperate pee.

Seafarer58
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 8:20 AM
Hi Gia!

That was great! Actually I find it even more arousing if the woman also finds it exciting, as you do, when she's absolutely bursting. Even more so if she's trying to hide the fact from someone who's with her, as you had to do with your boss!! And I love to hear that strong, hissing sound when you release a long pent-up pee!! Wish we could meet in person (*smile)

By the way, if anyone likes to write to me personally, you're welcome to do so, to Seafarer58@hotmail.com

Estelle
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 8:42 AM
Thanks Seafarer.

I see you're from Sri Lanka. Is that a first on this board?

Lady Estelle!

Seafarer58
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 2:29 PM
Thanks Seafarer.

I see you're from Sri Lanka. Is that a first on this board?

Lady Estelle!

Yes, M'Lady! I believe I am. Shows our little turn-on is universal, doesn't it?!

Anonymous
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 4:47 PM
Estelle. I don't really understand the basis of your objection to being referred to as a 'lady.' Most women would take it as the genteel compliment it's intended to be. If you prefer to be known as a 'woman' that's alright in my book but I don't really understand your preference or rather the reasoning behind. I guess I'm one of the great confused!

:? :?

Indigo
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 5:33 PM
I'd say I like desperation - but only because of the anticipation of imminent wetting.

I have been known to "create" desperation situations for a female companion; but then I feel honour bound to find some way out for her without an actual wetting.

So does that make me an out and out desperation fan?

Who knows? Who cares!

Strangely, the one time my wife (under what influence I know not) declared an intention just to sit there and wet herself, without any encouragement or "engineering" from me, I talked her out of it.

Go figure!

Estelle
Sun, 23 Nov 03, 7:06 PM
Adrian

I don't really want to go on about this; I think it's important but I don't want to push it too hard. But since you asked....

It seems to me that it's that very "genteelity" that I'm rejecting - on my own behalf, at least. "Genteelity" disempowers us, implies fragility, implies lack of strength. I want to be here on a basis of equality. "Women" is a value-neutral word. "Lady" is not. "Women" is far more solid - and, believe me, we are!

OK. Let's let this go. If anyone really wants to follow it up, let's start again on the OT forum but I'm not sure I can be bothered.

Estelle

Pit
Mon, 24 Nov 03, 8:49 AM
To Seafarer58: Exciting report about 'D'! I love female behaviour of that kind!! Thanks.

Anonymous
Mon, 24 Nov 03, 9:06 AM
Estelle said:

It seems to me that it's that very "genteelity" that I'm rejecting - on my own behalf, at least. "Genteelity" disempowers us, implies fragility, implies lack of strength. I want to be here on a basis of equality. "Women" is a value-neutral word. "Lady" is not. "Women" is far more solid - and, believe me, we are!

I think I understand what you're trying to say, Estelle. Like you I don't want to labour the point too much. However, I would disagree about being genteel disempowering us or implying fragility/weakness. Much rather I see it as representing strength, quality, civilised manners and good old fashioned basic decency. Please accept my apologies for replying on this thread. I felt that a reply needed to be made but it didn't warrant starting a new thread in the O/T section.

fullbladder
Mon, 24 Nov 03, 9:42 PM
By the way, do any of you ladies find it arousing to be desperate for the toilet??

Yes!

Anonymous
Mon, 24 Nov 03, 9:53 PM
Nothing hits me as much as knowing someone I'm with, especially another girl, is having a struggle with her bladder. If I'm the one fighting back the urge, I seldom tell anyone - I can't bear it for them to know but if it's someone else I sympathise with their plight so much that I find I'm sharing their anguish.

Recently I was in a Little-Chef, finishing a rather average meal when my attention was drawn to a commotion in the entrance. Aparently a coachload of ladies had just arrived and some were in a frantic need of relief but the management told them that the toilets were only for customers. One yound lady in particular (with a face as bright as a beetroot) demanded to be allowed to use the toilet but she was not winning her case against the stubbern staff. I think several ladies barged in anyway (who can blame them) but the more timid were left in that terrable position of bursting to go and having lots of eyes on you as well!

I couldn't hear everything that was said but I got the impression that they had decided to return to the bus and find the next loo on rouit. This looked like a loo-too-far for one or two but off they went. I finished my meal quickly and left to see what became of them. They were argueing by the bus and one in particular was in tears. Oh, how I understood her plight. It's just so awful!

I decided to see if I could help, so told the group I had overheard the conversation in the cafe and since I had been a customer there was no reason why I couldn't use the ladies and perhaps one or two of the group might slip in unnoticed but they were just too embarrassed to chance being refused again, so they took the uncertain option of finding another toilet. I watched as the coach pulled away and saw that unless they were very lucky some ladies were in for a accident.

I couldn't stop thinking about the incident and it got me just as wound-up as the ladies themselves.

Men say they find it a turn-on, especially knowing a lady needs to go and I wondered if the staff had only been female whether the ladies on the coach would have been turned away. I can just imagine the cafe manager (a balding thin man) getting a real kick out of seeing the distress he was causing. Men can be so insensitive at times!

Anonymous
Tue, 25 Nov 03, 2:32 AM
Hi Jackie!

You wrote:



I usually wear short skirts as they make it much easier to pee when desperate or taking a quick piss outdoors. I can squat down, pull my panties aside, and let out my piss very easily.
Love,
JackieM

Have you ever tried taking a piss standing up and just pulling your panties aside ?
I guess in public it would not be so obvious what you are doing !

Peecock
Tue, 25 Nov 03, 2:37 AM
Sorry I wasn't logged in, so my entry was signed guest.

Peecock

Anonymous
Sat, 6 Dec 03, 10:07 PM
Reply to Guest ( are you male or female? )You are correct about standing up in a short skirt, pulling my panties aside, and peeing while standing up. I have had to do this on occasion and it is less conspicuous depending on the situation. The only trouble is when I am really desperate the pee shoots out very hard and noisy and draws attention to what I am doing.

Sat, 6 Dec 03, 11:06 PM
Hi Seafarer, I am a 47 year old female and my interests are very similar to yours. I don't really get turned on by wet pants, but I do love desperation. In my case, I would rather see a guy desperate for a pee, no where to go, actually HAVING to hold it in or else he'll piss himself. I too like when he hides his desperation. The subtle signs turn me on. I also get turned on if he tells me how bad he has to go, but there is no place for him to relieve himself at the moment.

I don't really get too turned on (just a bit), if someone is holding it intentionally. I am straight, but do enjoy watching anyone who is desperate and can't find a bathroom.

Sun, 7 Dec 03, 12:18 AM
Hi Seafarer, I am a 47 year old female and my interests are very similar to yours. I don't really get turned on by wet pants, but I do love desperation. In my case, I would rather see a guy desperate for a pee, no where to go, actually HAVING to hold it in or else he'll piss himself. I too like when he hides his desperation. The subtle signs turn me on. I also get turned on if he tells me how bad he has to go, but there is no place for him to relieve himself at the moment.

I don't really get too turned on (just a bit), if someone is holding it intentionally. I am straight, but do enjoy watching anyone who is desperate and can't find a bathroom.

Seafarer58
Mon, 8 Dec 03, 7:07 PM
Hi MoonSpirit,

Thanks! Chalk another one up for the desperation faction!

Seafarer