The Pouges and others?

[Finesse]

Hi!

I was listning to my (okay one of my older brothers) CD:s with The Pouges and they are just great!! Shane really knows how to write lyrics and that combined with the irish music is just so wonderfull to listen to!

But I have a question, does it exist any other bands like that? Mixing the irish music with some guitars and great lyrics? Or does somebody have any suggestions about other bands/music the Pouges-fans probobly would enjoy?

Hugs
Finesse
(aka Sally MacLenanne)

[Indigo]

There's loads and loads of them, Finesse, but none so great as the Pogues.

You could do worse than go and buy yourself something by Christie Moore.

[Val]

Shane McGowan was and is permanently totally drunk. You should try 'Fairy tale of New York'. I always thought this was a couple of old tramps but it's actually him in prison and then the reality when he gts home and they start warring over lost hopes.
It's the Pogues. They started as Pog ma Thon (with accents on the Os) pronounced Pogmahone, Irish for 'kiss my arse'. Modernised Irish tradition is quite popular - and usually pretty good. I have a liking for the Swa Doctors but they are closer to comedy ('Sixteen year old Catholic boarding virgin')

[Estelle]

Hi Finesse

Yes, The Pogues are in a class of their own. Shane McGowan is a superb songwriter.

Have you tried his post-Pogues band - Shane McGowan and The Popes? "The Snake" is a fine album - very much in The Pogues tradition.

As for other bands - The Waterboys in their Irish phase are worth a listen. Try "Fisherman's Blues" And if want a truly great traditional Irish band then check out Planxty. Long gone but the band where Christy Moore (see Indigo's post) cut his teeth.

As for "Fairy Tale Of New York" - well, it's the only Christmas song worth listening to!

Estelle

[Val]

Hi Finesse


As for "Fairy Tale Of New York" - well, it's the only Christmas song worth listening to!

Estelle

I can never remember who did it (keep thinking it was Ian Drury but it wasn't) or if it's actually called 'Can you stop the cavalry' but that's the other decent Xmas song.

[bspider]

The Pogues featuring the late Kirsty McColl (sp?). Shane allegedly wrote it especially for her. Wonderful song, always moves me whenever I see the video nowadays.

Boris.

[Val]

I put that in more than a bit of a muddled way. 'Can you stop the Cavalry' wasn't Kirsty McCall. 'Fairytale' of course was Pogues.

[~*~ k a t e ~*~]

Finesse, you might like to try Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds. Shane McGowan and Nick Cave are old friends and their bands are of a very similar structure. The Bad Seeds are Australian, though, so if it's just Irish influences you're looking for then I've been no help at all. lol!

[Crazyhorse]

The irony in this is that Stop The Cavalry was not a Christmas record at all. Try reading the lyrics, it is just a catchy anti-war song. However, it happened to include the line "Wish I was at home for Christmas" and because 99.9% of mainstream radio play is dominated by people with brains not in their heads, all you ever get at Christmas are songs that mention Christmas. How original is that?

The song itself was actually by Jona Lewie.

[Val]

I must admit to having as little to do with Christimas as possible was one of its attractions as a Christmas song. The other universal non-Christmas tosh is probably the worst track of Prokofiev's Lt. Kizhe suite (originally a film score), the wedding sleigh ride.

[Finesse]

Hi all!

I am very embarrassed I misspelled The Pogues.


Indigo: I will try out Christie Moore. Any special CD I should try, I mean which is the best? Of course that is personal, but, you know, which most people think is the best anyway.


To Val:

Shane MacGowan a total drunk……Oh, I´m so surprised…...

Fairy tale of New York I have already listened to. And I liked it a lot! Fun to know it was written about leaving prison and the stuff that followed.

And thanks to tell me where the name came from, kiss my arse sounds like Pogues.

About Swa Doctors, I will try and download some of them if its possible.


Estelle: Strange we kind of like the same music and stuff….sometimes I feel we are really alike, and sometimes the opposite.

I will definetley try “Shane McGowan and The Popes” and “The Snake”-album.

Thanks for the tips about other bands, I will try them/download stuff that is possible when I have the time. I am curious. Christie Morre I will check out since both you and Indigo said it.


To ~*~ k a t e ~*~
I will try out Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, if the lyrics are close they will be great, even if the irish influences wont be there.

Hugs to all

[Indigo]

The first Christie Moore album you should buy yourself, without a shadow of a doubt, is Ride On.


Takes more imagination
When everything's remote control
For me it's just a case of
What's on the far side of the road
Tell everybody I'm going away for ten years
I'm going to wander among the Wicklow Hills

It sounds much better with the music ...

[Finesse]

Indigo:
Thanks for the tip (I have been having trouble with downloading music and movies (it cut of in the middle all the time, but one of my brothers is going to fix it during the weekend (hopefully)

Hugs
Finesse

[Indigo]

Or you could always buy it rather than download it, and let the people who put all the work into producing it for your pleasure get some sort of payback for their efforts ...

[Crazyhorse]

I understand your sarcasm Indigo, we have had this from the music corporations for years. What they dont understand is that a lot of people like to download an mp3 to see what the music is like. If they like what they hear then many are likely to buy a quality copy.

What I dont like is being lectured by the music industry on how my downloads are ruining their profits when I have bought my favourite albums on vinyl 20-30 years ago, and bought them again on cd. So, I have paid twice for the same music. I will stop downloading stuff from the past, when they give me some compensation for paying twice for the same item, but do they? No, they bring out a re-mastered cd with a couple of bonus tracks and expect me to pay a third time :twisted: .

[~*~ k a t e ~*~]

Buy?? Music?? Huh??

I agree with Crazyhorse, but for a slightly different reason: mp3 filesharing is causing the music industry to lose money, but only with regards to the really big name artists. Smaller, more sincere musicians are doing just fine - infact most are doing better thanks to P2P sharing.

People who are into the fringe acts will tend to download a bunch of songs to see what the band is like, and either say "wow, this is great, I'm going to order the CD" or "ehh, this is crap, thankfully I haven't needed to buy the album to discover this..." so that's hardly a loss of a sale.

The flip-side is when the people who listen to "chart" music (simply because it's currently popular) download the latest "hit" track. There would be no point thinking "this is great, I'll buy the CD", because in 2 weeks time the song won't be popular anymore and the disc would be sitting under a mug on their coffee-table. That's where record companies lose out, and so they should.

I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over the fact that commercial dross like Britney or J-Lo or Busted are only making one zillion instead of the predicted two zillion dollars per album. Boo-fucking-hoo!

How about that really fast rap thing by Kayne West that everyone was falling about over like three months ago? Kids wouldn't dare listen to that today, I mean, duh, it's sooo last week!... ;)

[Ape]

Or you could always buy it rather than download it, and let the people who put all the work into producing it for your pleasure get some sort of payback for their efforts ...

The music industry could make a start by paying their artists more - when CDs arrived on the scene, the costs of production plummeted - but the buying public saw no difference, it all went into the fat pockets of the fat cats that dominate the music industry. Until they show some willing to benefit the artists instead of themselves, I'll have no qualms and no lectures from the likes of you about downloading. The internet allows smaller, less populist, usually more talented artists to break through. The only ones who complain are the corporations and the massive artists, who couldn't give a fuck about artistic integrity but instead concentrate on buying their next mansion. Frankly, fuck 'em!

[~*~ k a t e ~*~]

Thanks for simply paraphrasing what I just said, Ape! Repetition is the key!